Katchii 🌸💔
Julianna, known as itsKatchii, rose from the Philippines to become a rising star in the Austin IRL scene. But her rapid ascent has been marred by rumors of a messy love triangle with Dean and Nick Polom, and she’s even considering a move back to NYC.
💔 Dean’s Plaything?
Katchii is reportedly one of several women Dean is juggling, along with Julia and Salma. Nick Polom has tried to warn her, but she seems drawn to the bad boy energy. The situation boiled over at Nick’s return stream, where Dean’s presence caused tension.
📉 Wanting Out
Katchii has expressed a desire to move back to New York, citing burnout from the Austin drama. She’s been seen less frequently in group streams, and her future in the OTK orbit is uncertain. Will she bounce back or fade away?
📋 Raw Timeline
- (4chan thread #951041230)
Katchii told Nick to see a therapist on her stream today. - (4chan thread #951041230)
Katchii told Malena 'kys' (kill yourself) during the divorce. - (4chan thread #951041230)
Katchii and Nick had sex in October 2024. - (4chan thread #951032070)
Invited to Streamer Games 2. - (4chan thread #951032070)
Will reportedly talk about Nick isolating her and farming her bulimia and alcoholism in the future. - (4chan thread #951012189)
Nick isolated her from her family in Austin. - (4chan thread #951012189)
Alcoholic and bulimic. - (4chan thread #951000030)
Katchii makes Nick physically move so she doesn't have to sit next to a guest on stream. - (4chan thread #951000030)
Katchii is submissive and loyal to Nick. - (4chan thread #951000030)
Katchii comes from a super wealthy family. - (4chan thread #950968299)
In LA for an anime convention this weekend with Nmplol. - (4chan thread #950968299)
Blackballed from Core's 4th of July party. - (4chan thread #950945688)
Katchii's relationship with Nick is considered creepy by many, and xQc said 'ew' about it. - (4chan thread #950934306)
Katchii enables Nick's unhealthy eating habits. - (4chan thread #950934306)
Arther attempted to get Katchii to use kratom. - (4chan thread #950917936)
Was name-dropped by streamer Dates on a 50,000+ viewer League of Legends tournament co-stream in Jynxzi's channel. - (4chan thread #950861526)
Her first choice for a roadtrip companion is gsound; she told Nick she really likes him - (4chan thread #950861526)
Viewer count spikes exactly at stream start, suggesting viewbotting or coordinated raid - (4chan thread #950838632)
Katchii revealed she cried on a gondola in Vegas because Nick immediately denied they were a couple when asked. - (4chan thread #950838632)
Katchii cried on a gondola in Vegas because Nick instantly said no when asked if they were a couple. - (4chan thread #950818067)
Friend of Nick Polom made a crude comment about her riding a long horn, and Nick did not intervene. - (4chan thread #950821735)
Katchii actively encouraged Nick to get the Hummer EV - (4chan thread #950814547)
Wants a ticket from gsound to a game, creating tension - (4chan thread #950814547)
Posted a cosplay TikTok of Lowan from Etheria Restart - (4chan thread #950814547)
Rumored to have tried to kill 4 people - (4chan thread #950814547)
Claimed she was late to stream because Nick made her have sex in the morning - (4chan thread #950808083)
Implied she lost her virginity to her first boyfriend in college and also indicated she started having sex at age 20. - (4chan thread #950808083)
Obtained World Cup tickets through a TikTok sponsor. - (4chan thread #950808083)
Posted a cosplay TikTok as Lowan from Etheria Restart. - (4chan thread #950803023)
Nick bots her channel even when she is offline. - (4chan thread #950803023)
Is mentally ill and doesn't want to stream, only does it for Nick. - (4chan thread #950803023)
Nick constantly humiliates her and offers her to other men. - (4chan thread #950797640)
Spends free time watching Nick Polom's old YouTube videos obsessively. - (4chan thread #950797640)
Was three drinks in, talking to gsound, and liked being called hot. - (4chan thread #950777257)
Katchii is reportedly 27 years old (contradicting her on-stream claim of 21). - (4chan thread #950770514)
Attempted to get attention from Tectone and Asmongold before dating Nick. - (4chan thread #950731335)
Nick Polom confirmed that the alt account 'pomeraniangirl' is not Katchii's. - (4chan thread #950744018)
Nmplol and Katchii criticized Emiru for not doing cosplay streams together. - (4chan thread #950700720)
Arther frequently asks her if they miss him, indicating his insecurity about his place in Nick's circle. - (4chan thread #950694096)
Katchii stated she is submissive and has never used a condom in her life. - (4chan thread #950669026)
Used to go clubbing every night before becoming a top streamer. - (4chan thread #950638383)
Katchii leaked a license plate on stream. - (4chan thread #950638383)
Katchii's voice changes to a higher pitch when Nick is present. - (4chan thread #950638383)
Katchii's viewers prefer streaming with Arther over Nick. - (4chan thread #950638383)
Katchii is botting to 7.4k viewers. - (4chan thread #950616034)
Liam lives in Katchii's apartment. - (4chan thread #950605506)
Viewership shows sudden suspicious spikes suggesting botting. - (4chan thread #950605506)
Accused of lying about playing basketball; claimed high school benchwarmer but initially said university. - (4chan thread #950600625)
Was upset about the thumbnail on Nmplol's YouTube video. - (4chan thread #950597159)
Katchii doesn't know how to tie her shoes. - (4chan thread #950567808)
Said on stream that she might be infertile. - (4chan thread #950557913)
Katchii was at her own apartment, not Nick's. - (4chan thread #950551060)
Katchii is on Knut's helicopter stream. - (4chan thread #950527709)
Had only 1,663 real viewers at 3PM CST on a recent stream. - (4chan thread #950527709)
Nick makes sure she cannot collab with other men. - (4chan thread #950527709)
Blacklisted from big Austin collabs because everyone realizes she is a mental case. - (4chan thread #950523422)
Acknowledged the 'dog bed' meme referring to her spot on stream - (4chan thread #950523422)
Is on birth control (contradicts earlier statement of coming off) - (4chan thread #950518513)
Katchii was seen in Mizkif's chat. - (4chan thread #950518513)
Nick raided Katchii with 10k viewers but it dropped to 2k. - (4chan thread #950518513)
Katchii DMed her only big gifter to beg for subs. - (4chan thread #950518513)
Katchii's biggest gifter DrGero has not gifted recently. - (4chan thread #950518513)
Katchii leaked draft tweets on stream. - (4chan thread #950518513)
Katchii explained why Philly had her number on stream. - (4chan thread #950518513)
Katchii said 'beat my 100 nigger challenge' while reading a word. - (4chan thread #950518513)
Katchii gave her number to Philly when Nick wasn't around. - (4chan thread #950518513)
Katchii has phone numbers of guys that Nick doesn't know about. - (4chan thread #950518513)
Katchii was waiting to say goodbye to Philly off-stream. - (4chan thread #950518513)
Katchii appeared on Erobb's stream. - (4chan thread #950513830)
She cannot watch the movie 'Obsession' because Nick is afraid of scary movies. - (4chan thread #950480986)
Got Nick the follower bot hookup. - (4chan thread #950477574)
Katchii's viewer count appears to be capped at around 5,000, as shown by streamerstats data showing viewers equal to chatters. - (4chan thread #950477574)
During her stream intro, Katchii appeared to have thrown up the donut burger she ate, as evidenced by red glossy eyes. - (4chan thread #950477574)
Katchii showed the spot on her bed where she and Nick have sex, but the VOD was not saved. - (4chan thread #950480986)
Leaked that Nick is planning to buy a car. - (4chan thread #950480986)
Got Nick the follower bot hookup; Nick thanked her on Discord. - (4chan thread #950472819)
Katchii confirmed Nick saw her audition and pushed for her, and that Nick always wanted to fuck her. - (4chan thread #950472819)
Katchii talked shit about Emiru on her alt account pomeraniangirl. - (4chan thread #950472819)
She has never lost followers in a single stream in her entire 2-year career. - (4chan thread #950395696)
Nick confirmed that Katchii uses follower bots. - (4chan thread #950395696)
Katchii allegedly has a secret pornhub account named 'pomeraniangirl'. - (4chan thread #950395696)
Katchii was invited by Emiru to a girls night last week. - (4chan thread #950364641)
Katchii's stream was canceled due to internet outage at her house. - (4chan thread #950364641)
Katchii canceled her scheduled stream on June 8, originally planning a rice purity test. - (4chan thread #950354869)
Katchii's unused apartment was sublet to streamer Liam (leegooner). - (4chan thread #950354869)
Katchii is doing a rice purity test on stream. - (4chan thread #950354869)
Set a subgoal for a gym stream. - (4chan thread #950348651)
Arther's community openly hates her. - (4chan thread #950348651)
Searched her own name in a Discord server after being told people were talking about her; cancelled a planned activity after the court stream. - (4chan thread #950343141)
Referred to as a 'worn out oriental import' in Nora's Discord server. - (4chan thread #950338739)
Allegedly had sexual relations with Dean. - (4chan thread #950338739)
Was talking about a streamer who searched her name in a Discord during her Rumble vod. - (4chan thread #950338739)
Has an eating challenge planned on Nick's stream tomorrow. - (4chan thread #950338739)
Crashing out off-stream after the court stream due to how she looked in the lighting; skipped Cyr's pizza stream. - (4chan thread #950329796)
Dean introduced her to his friends. - (4chan thread #950325627)
Nick and Katchii's stream had 11k viewers, down from 30k with Arther and Julia. - (4chan thread #950325627)
Nick Polom begged viewers to like her TikTok post. - (4chan thread #950290367)
Katchii is reconsidering her Twitch career and expressed that she hates streaming. - (4chan thread #950290367)
Katchii has been in Dean's Discord for over half a year. - (4chan thread #950290367)
Katchii was openly flirting with Dean on stream, licking her lips, making eye contact, and laughing at everything he said, right in front of Nick. - (4chan thread #950284172)
Katchii came off birth control 2 weeks ago because it was messing with her. - (4chan thread #950284172)
Dean told Katchii not to go to Cyr's pizza stream, and then Dean was late to the stream making an excuse. - (4chan thread #950284172)
Katchii listened to Dean's recommendation for a game (RV) that no one else liked. - (4chan thread #950284172)
Dean told Katchii that watching an anime without Nick is like cheating, and Katchii agreed not to do it again. - (4chan thread #950284172)
Nick got in trouble with Katchii after Dean called Nick a fuckboy, and Katchii took Dean's side. - (4chan thread #950271524)
Katchii appeared in Cyr's viewer list shortly after Dean complimented her on stream. - (4chan thread #950271524)
Katchii got mad at Nick because Dean called Nick a fuckboy. - (4chan thread #950271524)
Katchii asked Dean about his sex life upon meeting him. - (4chan thread #950261434)
Dean gave Katchii a ride home because Nick's car was too full of cameras. - (4chan thread #950252212)
Speculation that Katchii was drunk and crashing out, causing stream delays. - (4chan thread #950252212)
Katchii is an alcoholic according to viewers. - (4chan thread #950252212)
Dean asked Nick for lotion so he could have sex with Katchii. - (4chan thread #950252212)
Katchii would have a breakdown if Nick played Nora clips on stream. - (4chan thread #950224477)
Nick and Katchii engagement announcement and party scheduled for tomorrow (June 10) according to thread speculation. - (4chan thread #950218573)
Nick's viewership dropped when she appeared on stream. - (4chan thread #950218573)
Was drinking shots during Nick's return stream. - (4chan thread #950218573)
Believes she deserves to be a professor at Streamer University. - (4chan thread #950218573)
Admitted she likes that Nick is an asshole to others as long as it's not directed at her. - (4chan thread #950191460)
Doing a solo stream while Nick Polom returns tomorrow. - (4chan thread #950164548)
Reacted to Lego bricks and mini figures on stream. - (4chan thread #950164548)
Someone from 4chan sent 1000 chat bots to her channel multiple times. - (4chan thread #950156446)
Included in Nick's big plans for 2026. - (4chan thread #950156446)
Her community mods started banning any slight criticism of Nick (nmplol). - (4chan thread #950124977)
Katchii and Julia are promoting a shady app (Mythic sponsor). - (4chan thread #950124977)
Katchii is making over $400,000 from her Rumble deal. - (4chan thread #950124977)
Katchii is putting bare minimum into streaming, scamming sub goals, no IRL content, destined for Rumble slop. - (4chan thread #950124977)
Katchii is required to stream 10 times per month and Nick's channel takes priority. - (4chan thread #950124977)
Katchii is the one with a wandering eye in the relationship, not Nick. - (4chan thread #950124977)
Katchii declined to join Nick at the gym. - (4chan thread #950120245)
Announced she has given up on her streams. - (4chan thread #950115998)
Doing a crypto ad on Rumble, causing viewer loss. - (4chan thread #950112451)
Katchii has a new streaming timeslot in the morning. - (4chan thread #950112451)
Katchii started her stream 2 hours late. - (4chan thread #950115998)
Uncertainty about Dean's visit: doesn't know if he's staying at Arther's room or house. - (4chan thread #950115998)
Nick and Katchii barely crack 4k viewers on her channel. - (4chan thread #950115998)
Was drunk on stream, talking annoyingly. - (4chan thread #950115998)
Chat is like a 5 viewer streamer, barely moves. - (4chan thread #950115998)
Nick made her pay $630 to clean the backyard. - (4chan thread #950115998)
Semi-retired her channel; it's all Nick now. - (4chan thread #950115998)
Someone named Artstar delivered a gift basket to her at home - (4chan thread #950115998)
First Rumble stream had only 300 viewers, without tweeting about it - (4chan thread #950112451)
Katchii cancelled doing stuff with Nick live on Tuesday. - (4chan thread #950106118)
Katchii made a pregnancy joke on stream and is reportedly infertile, not on birth control (uses Plan B). - (4chan thread #950106118)
Katchii started streaming on Rumble today, an update from previous expectations of next week. - (4chan thread #950106118)
Announced a race tierlist stream with Tectone - (4chan thread #950106118)
Starts streaming on Rumble today - (4chan thread #950106118)
Reportedly taking a 10-month break from streaming. - (4chan thread #950094401)
Showed up on Nick's streams 4 months before the divorce filing. - (4chan thread #950084773)
Deleted a message in Discord that from context seemed to say nmplol has a small penis. - (4chan thread #950080306)
Katchii is reportedly going after Agent and Arky despite being in a relationship with Nmplol. - (4chan thread #950080306)
Katchii had a solo dinner date with Arky. - (4chan thread #950075094)
Dean is expected to arrive in Austin in 3 days (updated timeline). - (4chan thread #950053391)
Nick vetoed her biggest planned collaboration in Atlanta - (4chan thread #950053391)
Katchii had her camel toe visible at NMS Boxing 4 and Nick made cuck jokes about her being available to other men. - (4chan thread #950041549)
Katchii's Rumble stream is expected to start next week. - (4chan thread #950036817)
Her nephews call Nick 'uncle Nick', implying a close family relationship; her family is speculated to be among the richest in the Philippines. - (4chan thread #950036817)
Smashed a microphone against the wall during a stream, leading to the kitchen mics being ditched. - (4chan thread #950027982)
Katchii did not post any pictures of Nick on Instagram for his birthday and made no similar birthday tribute or reciprocal effort. - (4chan thread #950027982)
DrGero, Katchii's top gifter, is allegedly laundering money for Nick through donations. - (4chan thread #950027982)
Katchii did not reciprocate Nick's birthday efforts; she posted no pictures of Nick on Instagram for his birthday in January, while Nick made a big deal about her birthday. - (4chan thread #950015339)
Another rumor claims she cannot get pregnant, possibly why her ex dumped her. - (4chan thread #950015339)
Rumored to be pregnant. - (4chan thread #950015339)
Katchii is pregnant (rumored in 4chan thread). - (4chan thread #950015339)
Katchii leaked that Nmplol's return stream is scheduled for June 10. - (4chan thread #950009464)
Katchii raided her own 24/7 channel instead of Julia's after Julia delayed her stream to wait for Katchii, which led to tensions. - (4chan thread #950009464)
During a VOD review, viewers observed that Katchii's blink rate significantly increased when Dean appeared on screen, interpreted as a sign of attraction. - (4chan thread #950003923)
Her mother's favorite and her brothers all love her - (4chan thread #950003923)
Sub count is at 3,000 but top gifter DrGero is gone, hasn't spoken or gifted since April and is turned off by Nick's treatment and unfulfilled sub goals - (4chan thread #950001029)
Also said she hopes Malena does well and wishes things ended better. - (4chan thread #950001029)
Trash talked Malena on stream. - (4chan thread #950001029)
Her stalker (Gman/Jassion) introduced himself on Julia's stream. - (4chan thread #950001029)
Her stalker (Gman/Jassion) was not baiting on Twitter but is genuinely mentally ill, as evidenced by a clip. - (4chan thread #949997440)
The schizo (Gman/Jassion) who targets Katchii also writes fanfiction about her and crashes out when she is happy or successful. - (4chan thread #949993372)
Nick allegedly made her cosplay as Asmongold for her birthday. - (4chan thread #949993372)
Jan 31 is her and Nick's anniversary and she joked about getting blacked. - (4chan thread #949993372)
Confronted RedRge about how he found a picture of her. - (4chan thread #949993372)
Kissed Nick on stream before Arther and Julia. - (4chan thread #949993372)
Cried while watching old videos of Nick and Malena and ships them. - (4chan thread #949997440)
Katchii mentioned on stream that they didn't check gifts before opening, and a viewer said his gift would make her cry. - (4chan thread #949990648)
Reacted to Nick's divorce video on her birthday stream. - (4chan thread #949990648)
Nick's top gifter Dr Gero has significantly reduced or stopped gifting (down 50% and hasn't 'worked' in a year and a half). - (4chan thread #949990648)
Her nephews reportedly call Nick 'uncle Nick'. - (4chan thread #949990648)
Has a brother with children, contradicting previous claims of being an only child. - (4chan thread #949987025)
Is turning 27, contradicting her onstream claim of 21. - (4chan thread #949987025)
Anon claims she is turning 27, contradicting her on-stream claim of 21. - (4chan thread #949982687)
Speculation that Katchii's top gift giver DrGero is actually her mother. - (4chan thread #949982687)
Katchii is suspected of begging other streamers not to stream on her birthday. - (4chan thread #949984051)
Her X (Twitter) community was suspended. - (4chan thread #949984051)
Deleted all her online content (social media/streams). - (4chan thread #949965980)
Katchii is paying for all of Nick's flights, while Arther paid for hotel and flights. - (4chan thread #949961117)
Posted on Instagram laughing about Nick's divorce outcome. - (4chan thread #949961117)
Julia was told not to stream during her birthday. - (4chan thread #949956432)
Rumor that she is transgender. - (4chan thread #949953036)
Described as having no initiative or planning qualities - (4chan thread #949953036)
Expected to be on Nick's streams constantly ('in the dog bed') - (4chan thread #949956432)
Katchii tortured endangered monkeys for fun as a child. - (4chan thread #949953036)
Planned duo streams with Nmplol soon - (4chan thread #949949210)
Discord community allegedly told her not to stream during Bali trip, encouraged eating challenges, and pushed her limits when she wanted to stop - (4chan thread #949949210)
Was visibly disgusted with Nick at a Burger King incident ('BK') - (4chan thread #949949210)
Refuses to attend events without Nick, contrasting with Julia who begged in YourRAGE's chat to attend his cookout without Arther - (4chan thread #949949210)
Allegedly said 'leave me the fuck alone nick, dean is taking me home like last time' during a stream - (4chan thread #949949210)
Dean is expected to arrive in 6 days. - (4chan thread #949949210)
Declined a planned trip to Atlanta because she needs more training. - (4chan thread #949949210)
Reportedly in New York City for a couple of days. - (4chan thread #949932929)
Claimed to be 21 on stream. - (4chan thread #949932929)
Her bots were sent to her 24/7 channel instead of main, causing low viewer count - (4chan thread #949915580)
Lost approximately 2,000 subscribers during a three-week break. - (4chan thread #949919734)
Reportedly uses multiple alt Twitch accounts: itskatchii, weentereberhardt, itskatchi, itskatc, torgototot, lmaowussup, summerwonderland99, weenterwonderland, winterwonderland. - (4chan thread #949915580)
Lost 100 subs since the start of her last stream. - (4chan thread #949912552)
Katchii was sniped by a schizo (a stalker/unstable viewer) during a stream. - (4chan thread #949915580)
An Uber driver tried to hit on Katchii. - (4chan thread #949915580)
Katchii lost 100 subs since the start of her last stream. - (4chan thread #949915580)
Katchii's 24/7 channel (katchii247) is being botted. - (4chan thread #949912552)
Claimed that her alt botting graph looks more organic than the goonhouse botters. - (4chan thread #949912552)
Accused of botting the wrong channel. - (4chan thread #949912640)
Was reportedly a groupie for Asmongold and Tectone before dating Nick. - (4chan thread #949915580)
Someone is botting her channel. - (4chan thread #949915580)
Consistently has exactly 2.1k viewers, suggesting viewbotting. - (4chan thread #949915580)
Viewer count is capped. - (4chan thread #949912640)
Cries when her voice is mentioned. - (4chan thread #949912640)
Had a failed modeling career. - (4chan thread #949907303)
Supported Emiru's accusations against Mizkif by allowing her name to be used - (4chan thread #949907303)
Hates Arther because both she and Arther want Nick's attention - (4chan thread #949902879)
Nick and Katchii read 4chan on /b/. - (4chan thread #949898455)
Hates streaming and only does it for Nick (nmplol) - (4chan thread #949898455)
Katchii hates her viewers and only streams for Nick. - (4chan thread #949889665)
Claimed she couldn't attend an event without Nick, implying Nick prevented her from going and ruined the opportunity. - (4chan thread #949889665)
Rejected Agent according to anon. - (4chan thread #949885729)
Her father is a gold dealer, from whom Nick reportedly bought gold. - (4chan thread #949870402)
Knut knows about Katchii purging (bulimia) and took a video of it. - (4chan thread #949870402)
Nick and Katchii fought at a party because she got too drunk; Nick wanted to leave but she exploded at him, so he left her. Now he leaves her with a friend when she drinks. - (4chan thread #949870402)
Lost 56 subscribers during a single stream, dropping from 1246 to 1190. - (4chan thread #949865219)
Plans to go to Atlanta with Dean acting as her chaperone. - (4chan thread #949870402)
Made a fool of herself at Emiru's party. - (4chan thread #949870402)
Did a nazi salute on stream. - (4chan thread #949870402)
Rumored to be passed back and forth between Dean and Agent. - (4chan thread #949860367)
Rumble contract requires streaming 3 times per week at 12-1pm for 4 hours on Twitch plus 1 hour on Rumble. - (4chan thread #949860367)
Rumble contract requires streaming on Twitch before Rumble, and contract is void if banned on Twitch. - (4chan thread #949860367)
Said she was surprised by receiving many subs because usually they come from one gifter (Dr Gero), which upset other gifters. - (4chan thread #949860367)
Has lost sub gifters and stopped interacting on her Discord since her Bali trip. - (4chan thread #949860367)
Her cleavage is being censored in Instagram reels. - (4chan thread #949860367)
Was seen boarding a direct flight to Manila at Austin airport. - (4chan thread #949860367)
Admitted on a podcast that she doesn't like IRL streams but does them for the numbers. - (4chan thread #949856439)
Said she and Nick are spending the night at a hotel for her birthday. - (4chan thread #949856439)
The word "broke" is filtered in her chat. - (4chan thread #949856439)
Was at the courthouse for Nick's divorce but was not allowed in the courtroom and was asked to leave the hallway. - (4chan thread #949851012)
Dean is staying with Julia instead of her, casting doubt on their relationship. - (4chan thread #949851012)
Dean is coming to Austin to see her. - (4chan thread #949846220)
Rumors that Dean may be staying with Julia's house instead of hers, casting doubt on their relationship. - (4chan thread #949846220)
Accused of follower botting, gaining 6k followers per hour. - (4chan thread #949846220)
Recently followed Hasan on Twitter, sparking speculation about Hasan and Valkyrae's relationship. - (4chan thread #949846220)
Claimed to be a communist on stream. - (4chan thread #949846220)
Her Rumble deal is delayed due to issues on Rumble's side. - (4chan thread #949851012)
Rumored to be Nmplol's new girlfriend. - (4chan thread #949841520)
Katchii attended a party with 11 people including Nmplol, Soda, Vei, and others, and she puked from drinking. - (4chan thread #949841520)
Katchii received a second iPhone as a birthday gift from Nmplol, who convinced her to get it for the camera. - (4chan thread #949841520)
Katchii secretly watches Dean's Twitch streams incognito. - (4chan thread #949846220)
Dean carried her home in his arms. - (4chan thread #949846220)
Dean is coming to Austin in 9 days to have sex with her. - (4chan thread #949827042)
Ate an alpaca burger after using alpacas for content and wearing alpaca fur, which could upset mayahiga.